ATI Mosin Nagant 7.62x54R Monte Carlo Stock

I'm giving it five stars because it fit my gun perfectly that being said the instructions were clear on how to get it to fit if it didn't fit perfectly, what I did notice because I had to take it apart and reblue part of my gun barrel is that if you screw the back screw in first about halfway and then start the front one and then go back and forth it will seat a lot better mine sees perfectly but I noticed that when I put it back together. It does take some torque to get it to pull down again that being said I noticed it pulled in a lot easier when I started with the back closer to the trigger.

I just want to start off by saying that I am not an expert marksman, nor do I have much experience with what I would consider "larger caliber" bolt action rifles. But what I can tell you is that this ATI stock does modify you Mosin in a way that makes it more ergonomic to shoot and inspires confidence in your shooting simply because it makes firing the rife a much more pleasant experience. While it may not reduce the felt recoil that the 7.62 X 54r produces, it does virtually eliminate the sting and subsequent bruising that the metal butt plate from the original stock produces. Going back to what I had mentioned about shooting large caliber guns, I actually enjoyed shooting the rife more after the stock change because it made the gun more controllable with less shoulder pain to look forward to after shooting. I also have a new found respect for the soldiers that had to defend their lives with theses beasts! Before the new install I was usually good for 20-30 shots from the Mosin before the wood stock would get the best of me. Now, I am sure you can get used to it withe the wood stock and maybe I am just a, well, for lack of a better word a sissy, but it is hard to get around the physics the 7.62 round produces in terms of force mixed with the steel butt plate. My prior experiences had been less than pleasant. So anyway, enough about my issues with the 7.62 round... I installed the ATI stock on my 1935 Izzy hex receiver and while the barrel was not "floated" by any stretch afterwards, everything did snap perfectly into place and I had no filing and/or sanding that I needed to do. After reading the horror stories about some of the stocks that other Amazon customers had received, I was worried that I would have to make a return. The only comment I would make about defective stocks is it seems like many of the complaints people had about poorly fitting stocks were reviews from 2011-2012. Maybe ATI stepped up their quality control or maybe I just got lucky. You also need to understand that many Mosins were produced under wartime conditions and there are some variances in the finished molding/casting of the rifle parts so for some, this stock is not a one size fits all application. Back to the recoil, it does kick but I would say not more than my Mossberg 30-.06 which has a similar style stock to the ATI. I was shooting 1.5 inch groups at 50-75 yards (unfortunately my range does not offer 100 yard distances) and I was having pretty good luck with the 20 rounds of Herter's 165 grain steel-cased ammo that I used in it. Just a few final thoughts...the barrel on the Mosin is huge and every time I look at my Mosin now, it almost has a cartoonish appearance but I just remind myself that this is probably something that Ernest Hemmingway (or Elmer Fudd) would have carried on their hunts and it makes me laugh. It is a compromise as I absolutely love the look of the wood stock and mine is in excellent condition but I just could not stand the feel of the stock against my shoulder nor did I look forward to the recoil and the effects from it, so the ATI stock will stay for now. There are some pretty sharp after market wooden Monte Carlo style stocks out there for the MN and I may consider one of those in the future. Also, the swivels on the ATI stock work great if you have an extra standard sling sitting around the house and is an inexpensive addition. I am also keeping my open Iron sights as the gun is perfectly usable as is. One final thing to remember is with the 91/30 there is a good chance that the front ring that is used to keep the upper wood stock in place while using the rife in its original configuration will not come off the gun easily without removing the front sight. I actually bought a steel front sight removal tool on ebay because the type of ring on my gun would have to be cut if I didn't want to remove the sight, and I wanted to keep the ring just in case I decided to go back to the original stock set up. Overall I am very happy, have no complaints and even the box the stock arrives in is presentation quality that I simply cannot bring myself to throw it away in the garbage.

I recently purchased the stock so that I would be able to have a bipod mounted on my Mosin without having to adjust the wooden stock. Plus I was looking for a little different feel. First I received the order within about 2days of ordering it (and I didn't pay for the expedited shipping either). I was really happy with the look and feel. Very good craftsmanship and sturdy construction. The feel of it is nice. The only problem I had with it was my rifle did not drop straight down into it. However that was noted on the instructions that came with it. The carbine model M39 apparently is the only model that will not fit directly in. Darn the luck, right? Anyway, this is stated on the instructions as well. You can tell if yours is a thirty nine by looking at the receiver. On it, in most cases, is a dot-matrix serial number or model number that states M39xxxx (x=other numbers). You can also find a few other ways to tell but that one is the easiest. My fathers 91/38 fit in rather easily, but I had to do some cutting for my M39. The instructions give you an idea of what to trim but didn't make too much sense to me so I used a dremmel and widened the receiver area and about 2 inches forward of where the barrel started out from the receiver. Removed about 1/8 of an inch on each side or so and it went in with relative ease after the shaving. You may have to use a washer(included with the stock) for a tilting to get the barrel to seat properly but I didn't have to. Have not been able to take it out yet but with warm weather on the rise shouldn't be long now. But the action is smooth, the gun feels secure and the stock is steady and sturdy so there shouldn't be any problems. Overall its a good stock and fast shipping from the company. Dremmel will help if you have a M39 model otherwise it shouldn't be needed and you will end up with a straight "plug and play" stock.

In my case I did not need to dremel anything. When I initially put the gun barrel on the stock it looked like I would have to pound it with a rubber mallet to get it to seat properly as some other reviews suggested. However I decided to give the directions a try before reaching for tools. I think others saw this very tight fit and instead of trying to pull it down with the screws as the instructions suggest they just reached for a hammer and/or dremel started banging away. Again let me restate, when you place the barrel on the stock it WILL NOT FIT by just pushing it in. You have to draw it into the stock by tightening the screws. It might appear initially that the barrel is too large for the stock and needs to be shaved down. NOT THE CASE It is a very, very tight fit for the barrel. Thread both screws and tighten them both in turns just like changing the spare tire on your car. Turn one a few turns and then the other. This will pull the barrel into the stock evenly as you tighten it down. The instructions say that the barrel should not be 100% flush on the end and that it is normal and won't effect the gun operation. There is 2 or 3mm of space there on mine, but it appears to be seated very well. They include a washer for certain models that need an additional shim. The instructions indicate to try it without the shim first and if that doesn't work to do it again with the shim. There is an additional instruction for certain finnish models that require an additional dremel work. I assume that most people "sporterizing" their mosins will be using the cheaper Russian models. I did not make any modification to 91/30 to get it to fit. Removing the rings that hold the upper wood stock in place was the hardest part. I had to pull them apart with 2 plyers. They got fairly mangled and will probably not be reusable. If you knocked the front sight off this would solve the issue.

I bought this stock for my dad for his birthday and had no trouble putting it all together. Looks great and everything slid in perfect....until we went to the range and realized that the stock was to tight and we could not feed the rounds into the rifle correctly. We ended up loading the rifle 1 by 1 into the chamber directly just to get a feel for the rifle and how well it held up being used. If you have fired your Mosin with the stock it came with you know how much it hurts, the new stock feels so good. The rubber butt at the end is soft and I had no issues once so ever. Some say you still need a recoil suppressor but in my opinion they probably are just being way to sensitive. After shaving down the inside a little my dad has had no problems with loading rounds now. Just be prepared to do a little dremeling on the inside to get it to fit the way it needs. All in all this is a great cost effective way to turn an ugly $99 rifle into a very nice looking $170 rifle that is fun to use, accurate, and now looks great!

I purchased the ATI stock for my run-of-the mill Mosin Nagant 91/30 (common Russian variety). At first glance, the stock looked to be a high quality item as advertised. However, after attempting to install it per the instructions, I must say that those who get by only using a Dremel tool for minor grinding should consider themselves lucky. Mine required a few hours with a 4" high-rpm angle grinder to achieve a satisfactory (not great) fit. I suppose it could have gone quicker but I didn't want to take off too much material so I would only grind a few minutes at a time to check the fit. (Side Note: Be prepared to have a garage full of black plastic dust everywhere). After finally getting the receiver / action assembly to sit in place properly, the front part of the stock warped downward (think banana-shaped). The warp was so bad I could stick my thumb into the gap between the barrel and stock (and I have large hands). ATI's instructions say there may be a gap here due to "variations" between different Mosin-Nagants, so they throw in a 5-cent washer and say to install it if needed to close the gap. Needless to say, the washer didn't do much. I could "pop" the stock into place, but after handling the gun some, it would quickly pop out and the large gap would appear again. So, it was back to the angle grinder to do some more "customizing" for it to fit my standard rifle. After several hours of this, it was finally assembled and ready to go. Little did I know there would be even more problems when I got the range. At the range, I found out that the interrupter or other assembly didn't work, and it would not chamber the next round, so I had to load each round one by one. There is a note in the instructions that you may have to grind some of the stock away so it doesn't affect the interrupter. However, I did this before shooting and it still has an issue that I haven't resolved yet. I think these are made in the USA, but it feels like I got a product that was made in China with no quality control to speak of. I probably should have returned it, but what are the chances I would have gotten anything better the second time, and what else is out there like this? For the time and effort I've spent, I almost could have created my own stock from a block of plastic. I may end up putting the original 1943 stock back on. For those about to buy this, be prepared to do some grinding unless you get lucky and get a stock with a good fit. I also bought the ATI bolt handle and scope mount, which were decent except for the worthless, low-quality drill bits they included with the kits. I hope this helps, and hopefully others will have a better experience than I did. If you haven't purchased this yet, consider other options (NOT by ATI), before buying this one.

I used this synthetic stock on a post-war re-arsenaled Izveshk MN. Surprisingly the stock didn't need any modification of any sort. Just used the included washer for the screw that attaches the magazine to the receiver. Mileage may vary with fitting. Just be ready with a dremel if you do need to make any slight mods to the stock to ensure a snug fit. The barrel floats except for the last 3" or so - don't think it will matter at that point (comment if you think otherwise and enlighten a soul with new knowledge). With the BLACKHAWK! Rifle Cheek Pad , you're able to get a stable cheek weld when using the UAG Mosin Nagant 2-7x32 Long Eye Relief Scope , or any other rear sight mounted scope. Without the cheek pad and with a solid weld, your eye level may be slightly lower for the raised scope. The stock includes a rubberized no-slip padding that you could apply if you choose. In summary, the stock does the job and depending on your MN, be prepared for some sanding. The included instructions give you enough information for the necessary modification. Highly recommended to lighten the weight of the rifle and provide a more comfortable grip!

While this stock's quality is superb it's design and quality control is lacking. Not that the finish is sub-par but the mold they used to make this item clearly is. I'm not sure why a company would ship a product that you cannot install out of the box. If you're reading this or considering the stock you know that you have to modify it to work for the rifle. That being said, why would this be advertised for the Mosin Nagant without being completed? It's almost as if you recieved a stock that had the normal hole cut for the magazine and reciever but you do the rest. That seems more of a one size fits all solution to me. Granted, this item is not THAT bad as it does have the proper channel for the barrel (although my rifle in particular seems to sit to one side. M44 Carbine). The screw holes are there and line up fine. The rifle is actually a drop in unit out of the box. The problem is that no rounds will feed into the magwell and they most certainly will not chamber after the first is ejected. ATI sends instructions on where YOU need to trim to fit the rifle. So this IS in fact an INCOMPLETE product from the factory. I understood this going in and made the concious decision to purchase it anyway. The chore with hand tools is a horrid one at best. Relenting to use my dremel after 3 hours of filing by hand made it much quicker. However the craftsmanship was definitely sacrificed. It functions well after these modifications and looks great. I'm just not sure why we all are paying this much money for an INCOMPLETE stock. It is bothersome that the reason for the one size fits all (or doesn't fit any) approach from ATI is that there are "many" variants of the Mosin Nagant rifle. However, the most common rifle the 91/30 (the rifle one can only assume was the mold) doesn't fit properly either. I don't see what the harm would be in having the channel pre-grooved in advance as it is not a critical area clearly otherwise they wouldn't tell us to cut it out ourselves. I can't see that it would be much more difficult for them to correct this by cutting one of their own stocks to fit a Nagant rifle with extra room to spare and then molding that COMPLETED stock for their future runs. These seem to be popular enough as it is I suppose and they're not going to spend the extra time or money to change their product because dumb saps like me and you are still purchasing them. It's ashame that you have to settle for such a product at such an inflated price. I sincerely hope that people aren't buying these in their local gun stores as mine has one priced at 99.95+tax. I would be pretty upset if i spent that amount, 70 isn't a far cry though. So, in closing, if you're willing to do the work get a rotary tool and a sanding bit and have at it for the quicket possible solution. If you choose to do it by hand know that it will be an unfortunately long experience for you.

Respecte les attentes.

Over all I'm quite happy with the ATI Monte Carlo Stock! It is a tight fit, however it is to be expected due to the fact of so many varients of the Mosin Negants. I found with a bit of squeezing into the stock and tightening the bolts as such, it seemed to fit okay. Some minor sanding required, mostly as there's some sharp ish edges but for the most part a really solid stock! I would definitely buy another one for my other Negants! The stock arrived super early. Originally it said it should arrive between Oct. 23rd - 29th, and could be late, however it arrived on Oct. 19th! I definitely recommend this stick to any one looking to sporterize their Negants!

To expensive vs the quality. Very bad fitting